Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

02/22/2005 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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+ SB 14 MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCSSB 14(STA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 62 AUTOMATED POLITICAL TELEPHONE CALLS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 100 STATE VIROLOGY LABORATORY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 100(STA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 48 EXPENDITURE FOR CAPITOL CONSTRUCTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
SB  14-MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON announced  that  the first  order  of business  was                                                               
SENATE BILL NO. 14, "An  Act relating to municipal initiative and                                                               
referendum elections."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:13:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY STEVENS,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor  of SB
14, noted that the  bill is a companion bill to HB  50.  The bill                                                               
was introduced at the request of  the borough and city clerks, he                                                               
explained,  who  found  that initiatives  and  referendums  often                                                               
force them to  have special elections.  He  remarked that special                                                               
elections  are often  very  expensive and  have  a poor  turnout.                                                               
This bill, he said, would  allow more latitude and flexibility to                                                               
the local  municipalities; if there  is an issue that  they think                                                               
is of  urgency, they  can schedule  a special  election.   If the                                                               
issue is  not of  great urgency,  they can put  it off  until the                                                               
next  regular  election.    He pointed  out  that  the  Fairbanks                                                               
Northstar Borough at  one point had 46 petitions  in a four-month                                                               
period,  which theoretically  could  have lead  to 46  elections.                                                               
However, there was only one  election, which cost around $60,000.                                                               
He reiterated  that the purpose  of the legislation was  to allow                                                               
the local  municipalities to  have more  flexibility in  order to                                                               
cut costs and to improve the turnout.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:15:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  directed attention  to changes  in the  language in                                                               
Sections [1]  and 3 of the  bill, which specify that  an election                                                               
not  occur sooner  than  60  days after  the  certification of  a                                                               
petition.  He surmised that the  intent of this was to give ample                                                               
time for petitioners to campaign.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY STEVENS responded, "That's  certainly the idea."  He                                                               
suggested that  they speak with one  the borough clerks to  get a                                                               
clearer understanding of what those changes mean.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:18:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   GARY  STEVENS,   in  response   to   a  question   from                                                               
Representative Gruenberg  asking why recalls are  not included in                                                               
the bill,  explained that  he wouldn't  want to  include recalls,                                                               
because  the bill  allows the  local municipalities  to make  the                                                               
decision  to delay  initiatives  and referendums  if they're  not                                                               
urgent.  He stated his belief  that a recall is urgent and should                                                               
be dealt with immediately.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:19:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  directed attention to page  1, line 11,                                                               
and page 2, line 9, where the  bill states that if no election is                                                               
scheduled to  occur within  75 days  after certification  and the                                                               
governing  body  determines it's  in  the  best interest  of  the                                                               
municipality,  an  ordinance may  be  passed  ordering a  special                                                               
election be  held on the  matter before the next  election that's                                                               
already  scheduled.    He  asked,  "Do  you  only  want  ...  the                                                               
ordinance to allow  the matter to be scheduled prior  to the next                                                               
election?  How  about if they decided they wanted  to do it after                                                               
the next election that's regularly scheduled?"                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY STEVENS said that he  could see no reason why anyone                                                               
would want  to postpone  an initiative  or referendum  beyond the                                                               
next election.   He clarified  that the  idea behind the  bill is                                                               
not to  delay referendums and  initiatives unless it is  an issue                                                               
that is not timely.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:21:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY STEVENS,  in  response  to Representative  Gardner,                                                               
said that a  similar bill was introduced in the  Senate last year                                                               
and passed  the Senate with  an amendment,  but did not  pass the                                                               
House.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON   clarified  that  the  bill   passed  through  the                                                               
committees and made  it to the floor of the  House, and then went                                                               
back to the House Rules Standing Committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY  STEVENS said,  "I believe the  reason it  failed in                                                               
the House  was because of  the amendment  that had been  added in                                                               
the Senate,  which I was not  supportive of, and ...  this is the                                                               
clear, cleaner version of that bill."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS expressed support for the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:23:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHERRY BIGGS,  Deputy Clerk, Kenai  Peninsula Borough,  on behalf                                                               
of the Alaska Association of  Municipal Clerks, stated support of                                                               
SB 14.  She said:                                                                                                               
     We'd  like to  stress  that this  legislation does  not                                                                    
     prohibit the local governing body  to conduct a special                                                                    
     election if  they so  choose, but  it just  removes the                                                                    
     mandate   to  often   hold   an  unbudgeted   election.                                                                    
     Typically  municipalities  ...  would  plan  for  their                                                                    
     first Tuesday  of October  election, and  anything else                                                                    
     has to come from other sources.                                                                                            
MS. BIGGS said the borough  has conducted by-mail elections.  She                                                               
indicated  that the  effort  has been  is  made towards  "hitting                                                               
every  targeted voter  in an  area," but  that often  people just                                                               
don't contact  the Division  of Elections  every time  they move.                                                               
As a result,  Ms. Biggs said, there  is a lot of  returned mail -                                                               
ballots that  never make it to  the intended voter.   The borough                                                               
gets  a special  mailing  rate  when it  sends  out ballots,  but                                                               
ballots, by law,  cannot be forwarded.  The borough  has to pay a                                                               
higher charge  when those  ballots that  cannot be  delivered are                                                               
"returned to sender."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS continued as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In speaking to  the idea of putting  a special election                                                                    
     after  a regular  election,  if I  may,  at that  point                                                                    
     you'd  have to  order a  separate ballot  for everyone.                                                                    
     You'd need  to hire the  precinct board and  the canvas                                                                    
     board all over.  You'd  have to establish polling sites                                                                    
     if  they're available.   Typically  we use  schools and                                                                    
     local  buildings.   We'd need  to make  sure they  were                                                                    
     available at  some time other  than our  October dates.                                                                    
     And the idea of having  to conduct an election [within]                                                                    
     45 days:  we often  have ... to  order ballots,  to get                                                                    
     workers  lined up;  60 days  is  definitely needed  and                                                                    
     gives  us  a  much  better window  of  work  time  [for                                                                    
     ourselves].                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:25:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS,  in response to Representative  Gruenberg, stated that                                                               
it is a federal law that ballots cannot be forwarded.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  referred to page 2,  lines 1-5, as well  as page 1,                                                               
lines 7-12,  and asked  Ms. Biggs  if the intent  of the  bill is                                                               
that  there be  at  least  60 days  [between  certification of  a                                                               
petition and the election].                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS  answered affirmatively and commented  that an election                                                               
requires considerable  time for setting  up as well  as supplies.                                                               
She said:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I  think it  is the  intent  of the  governing body  to                                                                    
     still conduct a timely election.   I don't believe they                                                                    
     would try  and hold it  off month  after month.   But I                                                                    
     know that if  we tried to hold a  special election here                                                                    
     in July  on the  Kenai Peninsula, I  think it  would be                                                                    
     utter  chaos and  our  assembly may  choose  to pick  a                                                                    
     better day.   So  I think it  still leaves  the control                                                                    
     with the governing  bodies in the local  areas where it                                                                    
     needs to remain.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:27:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  asked,  "But  you wouldn't  have  a  problem  with                                                               
reinserting the  words, 'but  not sooner than  60 days  after the                                                               
certification' at the  end of that paragraph to  clarify ... that                                                               
[an] election couldn't be held ...  [in] 20 days ... and not give                                                               
people time to campaign?"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS agreed with Chair Seaton.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:28:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  commented  that he  didn't  understand                                                               
what  would happen  if there  were  a regular  election that  has                                                               
already  been scheduled  to occur  between 60  and 75  days after                                                               
certification of the petition.  He  said, "There seems to be that                                                               
15-day gap.  Why is that?"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS responded that this  just allows for the necessary time                                                               
for  them to  advertise and  notify voters  that they  must be  a                                                               
registered voter 30 days before an  election.  She said, "I think                                                               
it's  just a  basic  timeline of  how things  have  to fall  into                                                               
place."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:29:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked why the  bill says "no sooner than                                                               
60 days" rather than 75 days.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS said  that originally it was 45 days,  "so I think that                                                               
they're just changing  it to 60 to still add  additional time for                                                               
preparation."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG responded,  "It  seems  that if  you're                                                               
talking about 75  at one hand and 60 at  another, shouldn't there                                                               
be either one or the other?  That's my question."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BIGGS  replied, "I do believe  that maybe 'no sooner  than 75                                                               
days' if you wish."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:30:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER said, "It seems to  me that the 60 days is                                                               
when there's already  a special election scheduled,  75 days when                                                               
there's not.   And there's  less preparation to add  something to                                                               
an existing schedule.... It's only a  matter of getting it on the                                                               
ballot.  So it wouldn't take as much time."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:30:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON remarked  the  60-day minimum  was  to ensure  that                                                               
there is  enough time for  campaigning.   He said, "If  you don't                                                               
have an election  scheduled within 75 days then you  can go ahead                                                               
and  do the  other [have  a special  campaign].   If you  have an                                                               
election scheduled within  75 days then the  election would occur                                                               
then."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:31:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON offered [Amendment 1] as follows:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     On page 1, line 12:                                                                                                        
        After: "before the next election that is already                                                                    
     scheduled"                                                                                                             
        Insert:  "but not sooner than 60 days after the                                                                         
     certification"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     On page 2, line 10:                                                                                                        
       After:  "before the next election that is already                                                                    
     scheduled"                                                                                                             
        Insert:  "but not sooner than 60 days after the                                                                         
     certification"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:32:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG objected for discussion purposes.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:33:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON, in response  to Representative Gruenberg, clarified                                                               
that previously  the bill said that  there had to be  an election                                                               
within 75  days.   He said that  the purpose of  this bill  is to                                                               
allow  municipalities to  wait until  the  next regular  election                                                               
unless  the  issue is  important  enough  to schedule  a  special                                                               
election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG removed his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:33:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  LETCH,   Staff  to  Senator  Gary   Stevens,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature  stated  that  Senator  Gary  Stevens  would  support                                                               
[Amendment 1].                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:34:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BONNIE WILLIAMS,  Member, Fairbanks North Star  Borough Assembly,                                                               
testified in support of  SB 14.  She stated that  she feels it is                                                               
appropriate  to   exclude  recalls  because  those   need  to  be                                                               
conducted quickly.  She commented:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     [Fairbanks] is  a community where people  like to bring                                                                    
     initiatives, people like to  debate stuff, [and] people                                                                    
     always  have very  independent opinions....   The  last                                                                    
     time that we had a  special election it cost us roughly                                                                    
     $60,000.  It  would have been very helpful  if we could                                                                    
     have held that with the  regular election, both for the                                                                    
     cost and  also for the number  of participants involved                                                                    
     in voting on  that issue.  Special  elections get very,                                                                    
     very small turnouts, and so  you don't get ... the best                                                                    
     possible representation  of the community's  desires on                                                                    
     it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  closed  public  testimony.     He  announced  that                                                               
Amendment 1 [text provided previously] was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:37:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  moved to  report SB 14,  as amended,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There being  no objections,  HCS SB  14(STA) was                                                               
reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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